Curse

Oblivious Moose · Feb 02, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

/signed

unfair for old chars to not have even 1 chance to obtain title.

demoralizing title, too many xp farms, with little to no risk. basic cakewalk title. never ment anything from day1.

1 time deth reset, xp for title reset to level achieved if death occours, thus starting the next level over agian, and pretty much anything that makes this title still achievable, to new and old chars, w/o needing to remake. all great ideas.

Marverick · Feb 03, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

Legendary Title involves little to no risk.
This is the easiest title to achieve in the game.
Just get to lutsgardis and hfff your way to a pointless title or go to the kilroy tourny in gwen and get it easy.
Either way this title is pointless since it is so easy.

So for all of us who earned this title by playing the game the normal way, it's still a pointless title? /fail

RedNova88 · Feb 03, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

Legendary Title involves little to no risk.
This is the easiest title to achieve in the game.
Just get to lutsgardis and hfff your way to a pointless title or go to the kilroy tourny in gwen and get it easy.
Either way this title is pointless since it is so easy.

So by your logic every other title would probably be even more difficult to attain? And even more pointless??

And for the record not everyone likes things like this handed to them. I didn't do it the way you described. I played normally until level 20 then spent some money on cap sigs. After that I bought scrolls grinded/quested with my ping hovering above 600. Oh yeah for sure the easiest title out of them all, no doubt in my mind whatsoever...

MithranArkanere · Feb 03, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

If they allowed the title for old characters it would be actually HARDER, the more things they have done: No elites to capture. No quests to make...
Just by paying normally in Factions you may get the title to max, thanks to all those 2,5..5XP quests.

TaCktiX · Feb 03, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

/Signed

The title is at an all-time low in difficulty thanks to Kilroy's dungeon. I would like to do it the old-fashioned way of just playing the game, but carefully. Editing the title to this would make that possible.

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 03, 2008, 08:42 AM // 08:42

/notsigned

Unfair for some of us who rerolled characters (after sometimes hundreds of hours of gameplay) to attain the title, only to learn we could have waited and simply not rerolled?

Nothxbai.

Isileth · Feb 03, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

/notsigned

Unfair for some of us who rerolled characters (after sometimes hundreds of hours of gameplay) to attain the title, only to learn we could have waited and simply not rerolled?

Nothxbai.

How is that unfair?

If thats unfair what about those missions that killed you? That used to count as a death. How unfair some people had to reroll and then it was fixed.

What about the new super easy ways of getting the title? How unfair on those who got it before right.

Just because something used a poor mechanic when someone else did it doesnt mean everyone else should have to use that same mechanic if it can be improved.

MithranArkanere · Feb 03, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Exactly. If something is fixed to make it better for the rest, you should not grief, you should rejoice and congratulate those that can enjoy the fixed thing.

Won't you like it so if they fixed an issue that directly affected you?

Charlotte the Harlot · Feb 03, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

/signed

Account wide survivor, xp since last death, or both work for me.

Hardly any harder to use a preexisting character than to make a new one may as well.

And if its account wide its still the same achievement just through a different one of your characters.

Perkunas · Feb 04, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

"Just get to lutsgardis and hfff your way to a pointless title"

Please tell me where this place is, so I can fight my way there with my lvl 16 survivor, and farm these "easy" points. How many quests and missions will I have to survive playing with H/H, just to reach this place? And where is this "Kilroy" thing everyone talks about? Is it easy to get to also? I would like to know where these places are, cause I am tired of rerolling everytime I die before reaching level 20 or just after.

My lvl 16 E/Mo has completed every quest and mission from Pre-searing to Lion's Arch, to KC for armor, and to Elona for the first 5 heros. I am at the hub, now tell me where to go for those "easy" points.

Kiragi Yagami · Feb 04, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35

/signed, i didnt even know about the survivor title till my main was well finished 2 campaigns and had a couple titles+ accomplishments under his belt.

but for those saying "one time death reset", think about this. people with LDoA are in the money to get LS then. "sweet, just got my LDoA title. /deathreset time to go farm kilroy for hours! noooobs!"

Nanood · Feb 04, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

Survivor between deaths sounds fine to me. Really.. It's a title. To see someone displaying the Legendary Survivor title hardly makes for oohs and ahhs anymore. Let us all have a go at it regardless of method.

ManiSan · Feb 04, 2008, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Anyway that title is totally broken. Legendary Chicken, Legendary Grinder, or Legendary Exploiter ?
And its very easy.
Im not, and most experienced players, impressed at all by LS. No matter what you say, everyone will think that you did it the easiest way possible. And even if you did quests, missions, you were prolly far behind the melee... Leeching xp, so only heroes and henches had accepted you in their teams.

So.. It doesnt matter at all.. just a word under your character's name.
/signed, looks fair for those wanting it (before they start whining about LDoA)

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 04, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Most of us just get it to count as a maxed title for GWAMM. The title itself holds very little interest to me, so I'm always mildly ticked off when a Survivor dies before r3 and I have to restart, since it generally happens after I've invested a good 20 hours or so. Accursed lag...

MithranArkanere · Feb 04, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30

I don't really care about the GWAMM, but I do enjoy 'completion'.
I'm getting all 1319 skill in a single character even when is no title for doing that. And I explored a lot before the Carthographer was added. And I got all Bonuses before Protector and... well... you get the drill...

I love completion.

TheRaven · Feb 04, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I don't really care about the GWAMM, but I do enjoy 'completion'.
I'm getting all 1319 skill in a single character even when is no title for doing that. And I explored a lot before the Carthographer was added. And I got all Bonuses before Protector and... well... you get the drill...

I love completion.

Oh good. I'm not the only one trying to learn all skills on a character. Yeah, I know it's not necessary, it's just something to do and now that we have tomes, it's cheaper than ever.

Frozy · Feb 04, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by TheRaven

Oh good. I'm not the only one trying to learn all skills on a character. Yeah, I know it's not necessary, it's just something to do and now that we have tomes, it's cheaper than ever.

Same here, sense of completion, and being able to run every possible build (unless you need specific equipment).

Anyway, everyone should check Shadowmoon's new suggestion.

Demandred · Feb 04, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

/notsigned

although i knew nothing about survivor title when using my main char, i believe that its tough luck and have accepted it, passing this would not be fair to those who have risked a stuffload to get it, although i think it would be very nice to get it esp with nearly gettting im very important, i think it would kill it, taking out all the prestige of a maxed survivor title

Isileth · Feb 05, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Demandred

/notsigned

although i knew nothing about survivor title when using my main char, i believe that its tough luck and have accepted it, passing this would not be fair to those who have risked a stuffload to get it, although i think it would be very nice to get it esp with nearly gettting im very important, i think it would kill it, taking out all the prestige of a maxed survivor title

1) There is no prestige.

You could exploit it at one point.
You can farm for it.
You can have someone else farm for you.
You can stay at the back of a team and map out the moment things look bad.
With a new char you can try over and over and over again without ever losing anything but time.

2) How is it not fair?

So because others used a bad mechanic everyone else should? Because it wouldnt be fair to make the game better?

RedNova88 · Feb 05, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by Isileth

1) There is no prestige.

Not anymore there isn't.

Oh well let the people that did it the easy way have their precious words under their name. The title will most likely mean less to them than it does to anyone who actually earned the title and did things the hard/harder way so that the final moment would be that much sweeter.